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Interview with Kabir Sheikh

Health researcher on bridging the policy-academia divide and navigating global health politics

Published on
October 26, 2023
Last updated
October 26, 2023
Kabir Sheikh

Kabir Sheikh is professor of global health systems and policy at UCL鈥檚 Global Business School for Health. His career has taken him from Asia and the Pacific, from teaching and research posts in Bangladesh, India and Australia, to giving policy advice in Geneva for the World Health Organization and, most recently, to the UK.

When and where were you born? How has this shaped you?
I was born in Delhi and raised in Vadodara, a city in Gujarat in western India. I聽grew up prior to the era of economic liberalisation, but at that time there was a culture of critical thought, enabled by the many educational and cultural institutions that were established in the decades after independence. India contains multitudes, and we had space to think and form opinions about its complexity and its relationship with the rest of the world.

What got you interested in studying health?
I trained as a doctor in Delhi, and my early experience as an intern in a large Indian government hospital awakened an interest in health systems. I聽was struck by how often strained health systems actually managed to聽function. A聽lot of that comes down to the actions and decisions of carers and health providers, and how well 鈥 or聽not 鈥 they are supported. I聽have written that the performance of health systems is a reflection of society鈥檚 collective will for caring. I聽specialised in public health medicine and health policy, spending the first 10 years of my career with local organisations and public health programmes, and then with a national foundation, the Public Health Foundation of India (PHFI). The story of PHFI needs to be told. It聽popularised public health in India and made it a viable profession.

How did you get involved with the World Health Organization?
Through the 2000s and 2010s, I聽found myself one of an emerging global community of scholars and practitioners working on health systems issues. Together, we developed the methods and frameworks that built the field of health policy and systems research, founded a global membership society 鈥 Health Systems Global, which I聽chaired from 2016 to 2018 鈥 and advocated for more research, especially social science research, into strengthening health systems. With successive epidemics through the 2010s 鈥 H5N1, Zika, Ebola 鈥 came a heightened global awareness of the need for more strong, evidence-informed health systems. In聽2017, I聽was asked to join the World Health Organization (WHO) to lead scientific research into health systems as part of the mandate of its then-new science division.

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What lessons did you take with you in recently going from such a large agency to UCL?
More than five years working for WHO gave me first-hand insight into the politics of global health. The big takeaway is that universities could be doing more to broker dialogue and collaborate with policymakers and practitioners. There is too big a gap between the world of academic publishing and the policy/practice coalface in a field such as mine. The prevailing paradigm is to try to push evidence into policy, which often doesn鈥檛 work. Deliberation and partnership聽are needed to spur true learning and change. Importantly, that will mean diversifying the ways in which academic performance is assessed, and it鈥檚 good to see that the Agreement on Reforming Research Assessment 鈥 to which UK聽Research and Innovation is a signatory 鈥 addresses this.

Academics often speak about the need for Western countries to work more with the developing world. Having worked in Bangladesh and India, do you feel that universities are doing more than 鈥榯alking the talk鈥?
Covid-19 was a perfect metaphor 鈥 we can鈥檛 ignore challenges in 鈥渙ther countries鈥 since tomorrow they will be our challenges. We are interconnected. Universities do need to do more to forge responsible and ethical partnerships in the different settings in which they work. I聽also think the boundaries and categories 鈥 Western/Eastern, developing/developed 鈥 are聽not so聽simple any more. The challenges in different countries are often similar or overlapping. I聽will represent UCL, but I聽am Indian, and I聽have worked across Asia and Africa. Many of us straddle such intersections 鈥 and this brings important opportunities. Diverse worldviews, backgrounds and abilities are needed for universities to be effective in advancing learning and having an impact in different contexts and settings.

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What has been the most gratifying moment of your career so聽far?
Establishing the Keystone Initiative, India鈥檚 first postgraduate fellowship for health policy and systems research. It聽was a partnership across 13 academic institutions, which would normally be complex, but the relationships were incredibly supportive and there was this sense of a collective mission.

Had you not gone down this career path, what do you think you鈥檇 be doing today?
I would probably have become a writer or a film critic.

What do you do for fun?
I love to swim, watch the films of Anurag Kashyap and coach junior cricket.

What keeps you awake at night?
Ideas about the research I聽want to do at UCL. Urbanisation, privatisation and the information revolution are the big trends transforming health systems across Asia and Africa. We need to make better sense of how they are changing and how to manage those changes.

pola.lem@timeshighereducation.com

CV

1999-2000鈥俽esident, preventive and social medicine, Lok Nayak Hospital, Delhi
2001-03鈥俽esearch officer, Centre for Health Research and Development, Pune
2003-08鈥俽esearch associate, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
2005-06鈥倀echnical officer, DfiD Resource Centre for Sexual Health and HIV/AIDS, New Delhi
2008-10鈥俛ssistant professor, Public Health Foundation of India (PHFI), New Delhi
2010-13鈥俛ssociate professor,聽PHFI
2011-17鈥俧别濒濒辞飞, University of Melbourne
2011-present鈥俬onorary associate professor, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
2011-15鈥俻谤辞蹿别蝉蝉辞谤, BRAC University, Dhaka
2013-16鈥俛dditional professor, PHFI
2014鈥俥xpert resident, University of Cape Town and University of the Western Cape
2016-17鈥俤irector, research and policy, PHFI, and convener, National Knowledge Platform, Ministry of Health and Family Welfare, India
2017-present鈥俻谤辞蹿别蝉蝉辞谤, PHFI
2017-present鈥俻rincipal fellow, Melbourne
2018-23鈥俻olicy adviser, World Health Organization
2023-present鈥俻rofessor of global health systems and policy, UCL

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Melissa Gilliam has been appointed president of Boston University. Currently executive vice-president and provost of Ohio State University, Professor Gilliam will take on the role next July, replacing Kenneth Freeman, who has held the role on an interim basis since Robert Brown retired in August. She was previously vice-provost and professor of obstetrics and gynaecology and paediatrics at the University of Chicago. 鈥淚鈥檓 looking forward to聽hearing from people, learning and listening. I聽lead by listening, collaborating and empowering other people,鈥 Professor Gilliam said.

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